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beyond the safety of modern cities deep

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in the depth of the North American

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wilderness sounds are heard sounds of

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branches breaking wood knocks

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guttural high decibel growl screams and

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grunts are heard for kilometers or miles

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depending on what side of the border

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from the safety of our homes we watch

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documentaries about the mysteries deep

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under the cover of wooded cloud forests

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difficult terrain otherwise treacherous

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inhospitable wooded Wonderland's

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creatures that time has forgotten

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history books have avoided and humanity

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can only joke about due to the harsh

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reality that most rather not delve into

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a chuckle hear a joke they're much more

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socially acceptable than confronting

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depictions of creatures so much more

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adaptable ferocious and connected to the

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lands they call home lands most of

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humanity couldn't survive a weekend let

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alone a month or a year

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tonight we delve in a subject matter

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that just can't be ignored although

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science has done a pretty great job of

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doing just that and sure it's easier to

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ignore something that may just be better

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than us in every single way truly

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massive versions of ourselves which

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don't need clothing shelter or a

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refrigerator let alone health insurance

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the ultimate nomadic conservationists

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and perfectly conditioned creatures

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surviving harmoniously with nature for

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as long as human oral tradition is

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existent these masters of the mountains

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have many names Yeti yeah

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we Sasquatch and Bigfoot the old man of

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the mountain hides even in the recesses

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of our minds something within us

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instinctively tells us they should exist

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but for many reasons were more

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comfortable ignoring this fact on

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tonight's episode of the hyper anomalous

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esoteric research organization podcast

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we take a leap of faith focusing on

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facts with the help of an altruistic

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filmmaker mr. Darcy where Darcy is the

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creator of beyond the spectrum the

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unwanted sasquatch

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the word unwanted is spelled with an O

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not an a and we'll address that here you

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can find the honest documentary on

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Amazon and other well-known outlets

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Darcy attacks many of the obvious

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questions science has ignored and does

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so in such a refreshing manner I have to

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tip my hat to him no need to hide

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anymore not from the grouse not from the

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house not from the screams not from the

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forest deep at night our guide tonight

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will set it right Darcy where welcome to

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the hero paranormal podcast thanks man

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that's a huge compliment I honestly not

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been told that very much but this

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documentary I wanted to tackle the the

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whole question of whether this this

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creature existed from a fact-based

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standpoint and I wanted to cut out you

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know as much spectacle as possible and

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just stick to what the professionals say

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you know and there's Jeff Meldrum in

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there he's a professional

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there's Bill Miller and John Steinberg I

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think Thomas steamed Burke's right and

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John Green these are all guys that I

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think deserve a lot of respect for the

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way that they analyze different

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sightings that have happened through

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of history regarding Bigfoot or

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Sasquatch and you know what I wanted to

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sort of highlight how if this was a hoax

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it's the most ridiculous hoax ever right

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in my opinion because you could easily

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jump jump into a gorilla suit and walk

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through a forest and try and get your

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friends to record a video and there's

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plenty of that on YouTube I'm sure of it

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I'm sure a lot of the stuff that people

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see and are so either we convinced is a

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credible Sasquatch sighting is just some

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kind of joke or clever sort of

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filmmaking that has created the illusion

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that they've caught a creature on on

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tape but you know when I first started

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looking at making this documentary the

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name for it was supposed to be the last

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Sasquatch and the reason why I wanted it

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to be called that is because I wanted it

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to be analyzed in a way that the last

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real credible film and video that's ever

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been taken of the creature was most

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likely the videos that were included in

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in my film or the the old archival

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footage and the reason I say that is

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because you know the patterson-gimlin

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film hands down is the best film of this

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creature in my opinion that exists in

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open public I think that there's been a

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lot of skeptics that have attacked it

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been a lot of scientific analysis of the

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video and by far the scientific analysis

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lends credibility to it being 90% real

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and you know you will get some of the

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other clips that are featured in my doc

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and it really breaks everything down

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that we've seen a lot of very credible

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videos in the past I don't know about

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the videos that have come up in the the

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most recent years I think that some of

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it's definitely fake but there could be

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case that we see some great high

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definition video shot again of this

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creature if it still exists and you know

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going back to the name the last

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Sasquatch I wanted it to be called that

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because I wasn't I wasn't a hundred

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percent sure by the end of making that

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documentary that the creature still

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exists or creatures you know the real

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fallacy with the name Bigfoot or

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Sasquatch is that it's a singular name

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so the first thing that happens to you

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when you try and talk about this subject

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to somebody that has no idea about the

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subject or both creature they say oh

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yeah there's like a guy in a suit

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running across North America or Canada

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you say wait that's real and the first

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thing I say is no it's supposed to be a

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habitat that you know deep wilderness is

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where a group or a scarce population of

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this creature still exists and yeah so

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I was gonna call last Sasquatch it ended

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up being called the unwanted Sasquatch

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and people hate that name probably

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because it it makes them think unwanted

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and that I spelt the word wrong or

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something but I'm warm it is actually a

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word it's it means hard to find scarce

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not you know rare not normal and I

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wanted to also play on the aspect of

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unwanted because you know if you ask

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people about this from a scientific

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standpoint they usually shun it right

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away and say that people who invest

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their time in this must be crazy and if

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you ask just a regular Joe that loves to

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you know watch hockey and work good

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basic day job they also don't want to

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talk about it they think it's not so

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yeah I I thought the the title was a

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great play on words as well and I think

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a lot of people probably as you as you

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said at first were like wait was this

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was this misspelled and I really like

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that uh that it wasn't in that the great

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play on words as well I like that the

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professionals in the film I mean it was

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a very fact-based standpoint and I can't

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say enough about Jeff Meldrum I think I

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and there was a few others I believe it

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was David Weatherly Ben Hansen and Dave

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Rosenfeld I believe and I mean we all

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considered ourselves somewhat

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quote-unquote experts but when mr.

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Meldrum starts speaking it's it's like

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yeah it's like an augmented reality he

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attacks it from such a scientific

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perspective that I mean you just got it

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you got to take your hats off to him and

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the other people you had in the film

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Bill Miller John Green I love

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that you had the late great Grover

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those believers as well in the and in

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the fact that from an archival footage

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standpoint that the patterson-gimlin is

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the best footage by far I mean given the

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technology of the time and the

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situational circumstances the recorder

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that was used was so basic and I think

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it was even hand driven from a

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mechanical standpoint and I'm I'm I'm

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with you man if we could get something

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HD which doesn't seem to be happening it

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would be great but I also like that you

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said if it still exists because we have

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truly kind of created a difficult

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environment for a creature like this to

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exist and I wanted to ask you I was

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really intrigued that you you brought

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some somewhat new stuff onto the stage

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the howls and screams I believe it was

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at alert Bay is it you know I don't want

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to say it wrong is it come on Islands is

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that correct Island yeah that's in it's

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an island area northern British Columbia

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off the coast here that was found eating

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yeah yeah there's there's howls that

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night that are not the thing about that

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area is that there are no predators on

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that island not even really bears and so

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John bender Nagel he's been you know

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researching this this creature and and

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things for years he's written many books

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on the subject - he went out to the

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island and he took a look at you know

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some of the evidence and there was

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plenty of trace evidence behind people's

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sightings and reports that they had seen

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a Sasquatch on their Island and it was

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you know making vocalizations at night

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they're known to be nocturnal there was

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foot

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prints around the forest as well where

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there had been sightings by people so

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that that's the thing I mean people

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don't really think about it but you know

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when there is a credible sighting and

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people go to investigate sometimes they

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find 50 a hundred tracks going deep into

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the forest as far as the people can

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actually follow the tracks right and you

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example of where this creature has been

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because if you're gonna if you're gonna

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hope something you're usually not going

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to take it to the level of climbing a

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Sasquatch foot stompers right

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you're probably gonna take a few steps

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in and around a certain area and then

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you know you're you're hot you're not

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really moving as gracefully when you're

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in a suit and wearing some kind of foot

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boot that has a giant foot on the end so

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you're not gonna be going overboard with

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how far you're gonna hoax this so yeah I

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mean if even if you think of we

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discussed the Ruby Creek incident that

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happened back in the 1950s that was also

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in a northern area outside of BC and

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British Columbia here mrs. Chapman was

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basically chased off her property by a

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sasquatch she grabbed her kids they ran

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down to the train tracks they were

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building the train through DC at that

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point they're building the train tracks

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the railroad and she found the chain

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game

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working there with her kids and was

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screaming and shouting that this animal

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that looked like a gorilla walked across

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her property towards her and you know

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when they went back everybody including

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her husband went back and they found

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footprints all across the property and

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off the property and they went all the

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way into the hills and they followed

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them as far as a cliff and then they

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stopped there because this thing had

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apparently decided to scale a cliff and

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continue on so that gives me pause that

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makes me think that that's a very

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credible sighting an incident that has

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happened in our history as well and

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there there were 16 inch tracks that

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were cast in that investigation as well

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so you know going back that far and then

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the patterson-gimlin film happened in

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1967 that was the best you know footage

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that had been taken so if if it takes a

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lot longer for us to get very credible

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footage again of this creature that

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everybody is alleging still exists you

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know every year in northern BC here

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people are saying I saw one crossed the

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road when I was driving late at night I

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saw one you know cross a property or

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what have you I saw one run from a river

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or a creek bed into the forest it's

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possible but yeah we as as beings that

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live on this planet we're not making it

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easy for all these other beings to

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coexist with us and we are

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I'd say one of the most dangerous and

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therefore if this creature exists it

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makes sense that it's making himself

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hard to find or hard to see because we

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are a danger I would not say we are

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friendly you know something that's if we

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did find one if we if eventually it was

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confirmed that you know people have

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recorded credible footage of one in an

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area I bet you anything it's that

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creatures existence is not safe for long

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because what do we want to do usually

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when we find specimens that are rare we

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want to capture them and analyze them

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and if this thing has intelligence that

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possibly is as intelligent as us just

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more you know instinctually nature

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wanting to live in wilderness and and

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not needing the shelter and all the

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things that a human being needs able to

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live off of wilderness then it's it's in

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this creatures best interest to stay

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hidden and I think it's probably a big

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reason for why we haven't found one

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fully and physically yet I totally agree

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I mean as far as people go the you know

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the creeks I agree that the creature

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would probably be investigated

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traumatized scientifically just poked

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and prodded and then probably possibly

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even weaponized by our government if we

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could do it and it's a shame that we are

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so I don't know what to call it human I

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guess it's unfortunate but

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you know on the other hand you know the

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human tenacity like you said from a

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hoaxing standpoint is pretty weak and I

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think hoaxers are lazy and like you I

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think they're bypassing the possibility

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of the mystery by taking shortcuts I

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agree with you that 90% of what we

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probably see on YouTube is BS and I

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really like that you included the Ruby

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Creek incident and I think if the last

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sasquatch does still exist I think it

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probably did leave areas like California

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Northern California and like a lot of

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the former population it probably moved

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to a more calm area from a you know

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population standpoint where it can

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actually survive and something that

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really stood out to me was the sighting

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from the 1920s you included in the film

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which was I believe from a train which

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had to stop could you explain to our

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listeners how that went down there that

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really stood out to me yeah okay so that

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was the late 1900s and you know just of

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just before the turn of the century

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there

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it happened in Yale British Columbia and

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at the time when folks were on a train

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heading up to Yale the train had to stop

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the conductor had to stop the train

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because he thought he had seen a human

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being a man lying on the tracks so they

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pulled the emergency brakes they you

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know sound sounded the horn they got out

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and when they approached this being

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lying on the ground they noticed that it

371
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was actually not a man at all it looked

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like a very large gorilla or ape they

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say in the old newspaper article so if

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you think about it this time this it

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this time in North

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American history there was no guerrillas

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there was no chimpanzees apes that were

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brought over from Africa to the Great

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Northwest so it was very very very

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impossible for that to be what these

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people were writing about they didn't

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know what it was and when they they came

383
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to it it had kind it looked like it had

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fallen asleep or maybe was unwell it

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tried to get up and run away and

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apparently it tried to climb a cliff but

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it had fallen or something like that

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these people picked it up and brought it

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onto the train and there's you know more

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in the newspaper article that a dr.

391
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Hannigan had investigated the creature

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investigated its body noticed that its

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limbs were different from humans its

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hands were different from humans it

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didn't had fingers all in the same

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direction so it didn't have like a

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poseable thumb on its arms its feet it

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called paws he he called paws at the

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time but his feet the creatures feet

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were much different to wider and longer

401
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than a human's and you know this all

402
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lends credibility to the anatomy of what

403
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Jeff Meldrum describes in his research

404
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of what can be found and even Grover

405
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Krantz discusses the anatomy of the foot

406
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of Sasquatch or Bigfoot is supposedly

407
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completely different from a human foot

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it has a mid tarsal break so this is

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it's interesting that it was a very

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early discovery now unfortunately in

411
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this discovery we did exactly what you

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and I were just talking about we tried

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to research it and analyze it until it

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died and you know it was apparently

415
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somewhere along the the lines

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apparently the body was disposed of they

417
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think it was it got ill and died when it

418
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was ocean down to the UK and they

419
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probably dumped the body getting rid of

420
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:16,380
that because of fear of you know disease

421
00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:20,430
and such from that time so that's how

422
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that story goes and I think and that's

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that's British Columbia I think you're

424
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:29,250
right I think you're onto something by

425
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assuming that you know in in the late

426
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60s there was sightings in Northern

427
00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:40,800
California northern Northern California

428
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:45,900
is way more inhabited now parts of

429
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British Columbia are becoming more

430
00:25:55,790 --> 00:25:53,310
inhabited now but I would say that if

431
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this creature did not like our presence

432
00:26:01,400 --> 00:25:58,320
if these creatures did not like our

433
00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:01,410
presence and they saw a sprawling out

434
00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:06,150
into their territory more and more it's

435
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:11,400
logical that they would find a new

436
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:14,610
habitat to livin because they seem to be

437
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:18,210
nomadic they seem to come down when

438
00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:20,460
they're usually spotted in British

439
00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:22,680
Columbia these days they seem to come

440
00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:26,910
down in parts of the summer and that

441
00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:31,550
would make sense if they're following

442
00:26:38,810 --> 00:26:37,020
you know food and growth that's

443
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happening berries

444
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:41,640
that are proliferating throughout the

445
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summer in certain areas they're

446
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:48,020
following fresh water that type of thing

447
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:52,500
so yeah III think it's possible they

448
00:26:59,950 --> 00:26:57,770
still exist but maybe in more scarce

449
00:27:02,930 --> 00:26:59,960
north northern British Columbia

450
00:27:06,170 --> 00:27:02,940
wilderness is my opinion or elsewhere

451
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:06,180
that could be in northern the Northwest

452
00:27:13,630 --> 00:27:08,610
Territories that could be in Yukon

453
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:13,640
people of even the indigenous people in

454
00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:17,570
Alaska have stated that they've seen

455
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:22,470
Bigfoot in that area so yeah it's uh

456
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:28,770
it's an old story but it hasn't worn out

457
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:33,330
yet and I'm actually gonna be heading to

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00:27:42,290 --> 00:27:37,890
a conference next weekend in Washington

459
00:27:45,290 --> 00:27:42,300
State to meet with the individual Ron

460
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:45,300
Morehead who recorded the Sierra sounds

461
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:51,440
which are probably the most famous

462
00:28:00,860 --> 00:27:58,010
supposed vocalizations of a wild man or

463
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:00,870
who some people believe is Sasquatch or

464
00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:05,970
Bigfoot I the howls and screams are

465
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,460
that's really interesting and it's it's

466
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:11,520
a phenomena that I've I've heard myself

467
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:15,900
and unfortunately I was on a BFRO

468
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:18,420
expedition and there was more than that

469
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:22,710
but I had to sign an NDA and now then in

470
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:25,260
retrospect I wish I wouldn't have but

471
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:28,760
moving on the nocturnal capability and

472
00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:31,610
the eye shine is something that you also

473
00:28:40,340 --> 00:28:34,440
touched base on much like a coyote or a

474
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:40,350
bear has and I think that do you believe

475
00:28:46,030 --> 00:28:43,530
it's more conceivable that Sasquatch

476
00:28:49,940 --> 00:28:46,040
exists after making the documentary is

477
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:49,950
those those cases were you know the

478
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:52,530
eye-shine is seen because I believe

479
00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:55,050
as you do I believe that there are some

480
00:29:00,020 --> 00:28:58,260
honest accounts but there it's just I

481
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:00,030
mean they're swimming in an ocean of

482
00:29:06,260 --> 00:29:04,650
lies and after making the documentary do

483
00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:06,270
you believe it's it's conceivable that

484
00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:09,030
you know the last Sasquatch or Sasquatch

485
00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:13,560
in general still exists yeah I think

486
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:17,070
it's conceivable I I believe that it's

487
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:19,850
probably not in the same areas that

488
00:29:28,910 --> 00:29:23,690
they've they've been seeing in the past

489
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:28,920
but I believe that if they do exist it's

490
00:29:38,620 --> 00:29:31,730
not going to be easy for us to find them

491
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:38,630
and perhaps if there is a recording or

492
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:43,200
capture that happens in the future we'll

493
00:29:52,460 --> 00:29:49,770
finally have that confirmed proof but if

494
00:29:53,030 --> 00:29:52,470
if this creature doesn't want to be

495
00:29:54,610 --> 00:29:53,040
found

496
00:30:01,100 --> 00:29:54,620
you're probably going to hear

497
00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:01,110
vocalizations or see far off I shine for

498
00:30:06,380 --> 00:30:04,350
the most part why because they don't

499
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:06,390
want you to close that distance they

500
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:10,290
don't want you to be that close anytime

501
00:30:18,460 --> 00:30:12,930
that there's been a sighting that looks

502
00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:18,470
credible that has happened in the past I

503
00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:23,160
don't know five years the sightings are

504
00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:30,900
always very far away so yeah I I don't

505
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:34,020
think it's going to be an easy task and

506
00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:39,290
it could be possible in the future yes

507
00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:45,060
awesome in the words of Grover Krantz I

508
00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:47,550
believe he said that the search for a

509
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:52,350
Bigfoot is futile and is it I mean is

510
00:30:57,050 --> 00:30:54,570
there any benefit to proving Sasquatch

511
00:30:59,090 --> 00:30:57,060
exists and I remember that Matt

512
00:31:02,060 --> 00:30:59,100
moneymaker I had a conversation with him

513
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:02,070
that kind of hit me pretty hard and he

514
00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:03,810
said something along the lines of by the

515
00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:05,040
time we find out

516
00:31:13,010 --> 00:31:08,820
it will be too late and I'm wondering if

517
00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:13,020
you know like Grover Krantz said is the

518
00:31:23,169 --> 00:31:17,700
search for Bigfoot futile I don't think

519
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:23,179
so I do agree that it might be too late

520
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:28,320
if you follow what's been going on with

521
00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:32,910
our environment if you are believer that

522
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:36,230
the environment the climate is changing

523
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:43,380
and that is from human intervention just

524
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,049
in the past two weeks there's been

525
00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:49,440
multiple publications about the black

526
00:31:56,150 --> 00:31:52,700
bear grizzly bear population around

527
00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:56,160
British Columbia and other parts of the

528
00:32:04,570 --> 00:31:58,200
United States people have been stating

529
00:32:08,150 --> 00:32:04,580
that they're capturing pictures and

530
00:32:11,539 --> 00:32:08,160
noticing that the Bears are looking very

531
00:32:13,820 --> 00:32:11,549
emaciated going into hibernation like

532
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:13,830
this is the last feeding season before

533
00:32:20,830 --> 00:32:15,570
they're they're gone they're going to

534
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:20,840
sweep right and just the amount of

535
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:22,919
photos that have been coming through

536
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:25,770
lately showing them super emaciated

537
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:29,010
super hungry looking when they should be

538
00:32:36,980 --> 00:32:32,490
fat and healthy-looking going into

539
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:36,990
hibernation it's very shocking and it's

540
00:32:44,419 --> 00:32:39,510
it's kind of frightening to see that

541
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:44,429
because it means that the Bears are

542
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:50,580
struggling to survive and you know polar

543
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:53,910
bears for example they're swimming for

544
00:32:59,299 --> 00:32:56,010
miles until they can find icebergs

545
00:33:02,530 --> 00:32:59,309
because most of the icebergs and such

546
00:33:05,570 --> 00:33:02,540
they're used to using the unseal are

547
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:05,580
gone because it melted away

548
00:33:12,130 --> 00:33:08,510
so we're seeing the environment

549
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:12,140
increasingly deteriorating for these

550
00:33:18,530 --> 00:33:16,080
wildlife creatures to exist in as a

551
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:18,540
result of our

552
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:22,380
industry our ability to change the world

553
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:27,480
and you know maybe Sasquatch is going to

554
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:30,690
be one of the BI standards being

555
00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:38,970
affected by that and it it will be a sad

556
00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:43,169
thing if we find proof one day in our

557
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:48,470
wilderness but it's you know a sickly

558
00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:51,809
scarce population that we've confirmed

559
00:33:59,539 --> 00:33:54,780
to be alive but aren't going to be alive

560
00:34:04,940 --> 00:33:59,549
that much longer mm-hmm yeah I can't

561
00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:04,950
agree more the the polar bear is I I

562
00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:07,320
think that that is such like a mirroring

563
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:09,540
image of like what we may or may not be

564
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:11,730
dealing with with this mystery you know

565
00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:15,300
when you see the scientists and

566
00:34:18,889 --> 00:34:16,740
individuals that are tracking the bears

567
00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:18,899
as you said I mean the lengths that

568
00:34:24,919 --> 00:34:22,280
these bears are going to survive is just

569
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,929
unreal like really they shouldn't even

570
00:34:29,710 --> 00:34:26,700
be around anymore I mean they're having

571
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:29,720
to do things that are completely

572
00:34:35,060 --> 00:34:33,240
unnatural beyond the scope of their

573
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:35,070
means and yet they're still able to do

574
00:34:38,899 --> 00:34:37,050
it life is finding a way but it's it's

575
00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:38,909
getting more and more difficult so I

576
00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:46,940
something I wanted to ask you is I was

577
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:49,619
really interested with the correlation

578
00:34:55,879 --> 00:34:53,220
you made about the giant squid in your

579
00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:55,889
documentary and how science believed it

580
00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:58,230
was the stuff of legends until they

581
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:01,500
actually had a body and do you think

582
00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:03,510
that a body is what it will take for

583
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:06,230
science to actually take this seriously

584
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:10,290
yeah a hundred percent and that's not to

585
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:13,140
say that we haven't found a body in the

586
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:18,300
past I believe there has been accounts

587
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:21,530
of bodies being found there was a

588
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:26,000
wildfire that happened in Alberta that

589
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:30,690
was raging through a town and came

590
00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:31,730
remember the exact

591
00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:36,590
mean of it but apparently firemen that

592
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:38,750
we're trying to put out the forest fire

593
00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:44,270
that was spreading found a human-looking

594
00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:47,240
being that was extremely tall covered

595
00:35:58,660 --> 00:35:51,700
and fir but was burnt really badly and

596
00:36:02,800 --> 00:35:58,670
they rescued it so to speak but you know

597
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:02,810
this thing looked what on all accounts

598
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:05,570
people have been describing like a burnt

599
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:14,420
sasquatch and I think that case no one

600
00:36:18,609 --> 00:36:16,190
has ever followed up on that it was

601
00:36:20,890 --> 00:36:18,619
something that was reported but not

602
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:20,900
fully investigated there was another

603
00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:26,510
case where people said that they'd found

604
00:36:35,890 --> 00:36:33,230
a wild man frozen in the past the name

605
00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:35,900
of the case is escaping me but I'm going

606
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,680
to be covering that in another

607
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:40,880
documentary I'm doing on the subject

608
00:36:54,190 --> 00:36:46,970
coming up and this body was shown around

609
00:36:58,530 --> 00:36:54,200
in the early 20th century

610
00:37:06,430 --> 00:36:58,540
I was taken on tour and that body was

611
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:06,440
apparently lost or stolen and it

612
00:37:12,849 --> 00:37:09,710
basically was the description of what

613
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:12,859
could be described as a wild man a furry

614
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:19,310
a hairy ape looking creature that was

615
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:23,570
was found dead and kept frozen to be

616
00:37:35,650 --> 00:37:31,420
displayed in the you know early 1900s so

617
00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:35,660
that that some of these cases where we

618
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,560
have had bodies but they weren't

619
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:42,320
properly investigated and they weren't

620
00:37:51,339 --> 00:37:45,170
associated prop

621
00:37:53,470 --> 00:37:51,349
with us that that's a disappointing

622
00:37:57,789 --> 00:37:53,480
thing and I think that's the other thing

623
00:38:03,130 --> 00:37:57,799
that people miss is that we have had

624
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:03,140
bodies in the past and if you think

625
00:38:13,630 --> 00:38:08,680
about evolution and the theory that the

626
00:38:16,269 --> 00:38:13,640
Neanderthal existed for a great period

627
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:16,279
of time and that there's genetics and

628
00:38:28,059 --> 00:38:19,250
modern humans that are related to the

629
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:28,069
Neanderthal but on on math the actual

630
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:31,760
Neanderthal lineage died because you

631
00:38:39,789 --> 00:38:35,510
know they just couldn't couldn't keep up

632
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:39,799
with the modern homo sapien I think

633
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:42,529
that's the same sort of story

634
00:38:51,819 --> 00:38:46,640
with this creature Gigantopithecus some

635
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:51,829
people call it perhaps it was one of the

636
00:39:01,059 --> 00:38:55,490
dominant hominids living in deep

637
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:01,069
wilderness and proliferated around the

638
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:05,740
world for a long time and just now

639
00:39:14,289 --> 00:39:09,200
people are still seeing traces of it

640
00:39:19,509 --> 00:39:14,299
existing but it's very scarce it's it's

641
00:39:25,329 --> 00:39:19,519
dying off and we are the dominant

642
00:39:30,789 --> 00:39:25,339
hominid like we know to be in our

643
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:30,799
history up until now mm-hmm absolutely

644
00:39:40,089 --> 00:39:37,750
and something that you actually hit upon

645
00:39:43,059 --> 00:39:40,099
and really struck a chord with me from

646
00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:43,069
your documentary was how the worst thing

647
00:39:47,710 --> 00:39:44,809
working against the Sasquatch or Bigfoot

648
00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:47,720
enigma is actually the researchers

649
00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:49,849
themselves and I've gone down the

650
00:39:53,799 --> 00:39:51,880
dangerous road of dimensionality

651
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:53,809
whenever there's something you can't

652
00:39:58,279 --> 00:39:55,970
explain you know as as human beings we

653
00:40:02,029 --> 00:39:58,289
want to put things this box in boxes and

654
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:02,039
and be able to explain them and you know

655
00:40:09,229 --> 00:40:05,339
you get everything from well the the

656
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:09,239
gamut you name it the the Bigfoot

657
00:40:18,939 --> 00:40:15,599
researchers will say it and it may be

658
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:18,949
the worst thing going against the entire

659
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,249
mystery and I wanted to get a little bit

660
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,400
of your input on that how from from a

661
00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:28,079
perspective of someone who's actually

662
00:40:36,169 --> 00:40:30,539
attacked this honestly how do you view

663
00:40:39,529 --> 00:40:36,179
that yeah there is a lot of what I would

664
00:40:44,739 --> 00:40:39,539
call in fighting between researcher

665
00:40:47,269 --> 00:40:44,749
groups you know the BFRO are great

666
00:40:51,609 --> 00:40:47,279
organization and I hope to go out on an

667
00:40:54,019 --> 00:40:51,619
expedition with them in the future but

668
00:41:00,709 --> 00:40:54,029
there's a lot of disagreements between

669
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:00,719
them and other research groups that are

670
00:41:06,649 --> 00:41:03,569
out there there's many as you may know

671
00:41:09,769 --> 00:41:06,659
if you research Bigfoot there's all

672
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:09,779
kinds of societies and there's all kinds

673
00:41:19,489 --> 00:41:15,599
of people that can often associate the

674
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:19,499
creature with something that more

675
00:41:34,189 --> 00:41:26,729
paranormal than let's say related to a

676
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:34,199
natural wildlife phenomenon and I I mean

677
00:41:43,399 --> 00:41:36,689
I'm not going to discount that there may

678
00:41:47,509 --> 00:41:43,409
be credible sightings of Sasquatch or

679
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:47,519
Bigfoot at a time when there's also been

680
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:52,079
sightings of UFOs in the past but I

681
00:42:00,130 --> 00:41:56,729
would try this away from the idea that

682
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:00,140
these creatures are somehow

683
00:42:09,469 --> 00:42:06,359
extra-dimensional creatures that jump in

684
00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:09,479
and out of portals I just I don't hear

685
00:42:24,289 --> 00:42:16,960
I I don't hear that being a credible

686
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:24,299
story too often it's it sounds like

687
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:29,849
science fiction to me and you know I'm

688
00:42:40,029 --> 00:42:31,529
not going to deny that I don't believe

689
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:40,039
in Mignot F Ozai I do believe in UFOs

690
00:42:48,529 --> 00:42:44,609
and I do believe that we're living in a

691
00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:48,539
universe that's full of life intelligent

692
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:53,430
life and there's possible credible

693
00:43:00,220 --> 00:42:55,140
accounts that happen throughout history

694
00:43:03,019 --> 00:43:00,230
where people have seen UFOs or

695
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:03,029
intelligent life has come to our planet

696
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:06,089
to check us out but I'd say we're like a

697
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:09,900
cosmic truck stop and we're not that

698
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:13,950
important in in the grand scheme of the

699
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:15,930
universe because we're we're not that

700
00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:21,150
far along in our technological and I'd

701
00:43:32,299 --> 00:43:27,420
say spiritual or physical evolution but

702
00:43:36,140 --> 00:43:32,309
I just don't want that the subject of

703
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:36,150
Sasquatch or Bigfoot to be confused too

704
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:43,130
often with something that even more

705
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:46,980
unexplained you know it's all it's hard

706
00:43:54,970 --> 00:43:50,910
enough for people to to take the idea of

707
00:43:59,470 --> 00:43:54,980
Sasquatch or Bigfoot existing seriously

708
00:44:04,640 --> 00:43:59,480
but then to throw in you know UFOs and

709
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:04,650
portals and dimensions on top of that it

710
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:08,609
just you end up maybe talking about my

711
00:44:13,749 --> 00:44:10,710
pet monster or something like that you

712
00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:13,759
know like some kind of cartoon reality

713
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:17,400
mm-hmm I agree

714
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:19,650
we're on thin ice as is with this

715
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,140
research and I mean for the betterment

716
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:24,960
of just acceptability we need to kind of

717
00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:25,800
stick the course and

718
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,990
getting traction where we can it's a

719
00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:30,240
slippery slope or our efforts kind of

720
00:44:36,410 --> 00:44:31,800
seem to be thrown off by the mainstream

721
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:36,420
with anything and I agree with you on

722
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:38,970
the other hand as well I remember I

723
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:41,280
think I can talk about it but yeah there

724
00:44:45,950 --> 00:44:43,650
was a situation where somebody with this

725
00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:45,960
research group witnessed something and

726
00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:48,420
then they also saw orbs nearby and that

727
00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:50,550
was discounted immediately and I

728
00:45:01,610 --> 00:44:55,560
understand I mean it's it's very it's

729
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:01,620
very tough and I think that we have to

730
00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:04,200
kind of like what what I the problem is

731
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:06,030
human beings want to put everything like

732
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:08,970
you said in boxes and when you start

733
00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:11,910
bringing in this dimensionality and my

734
00:45:17,290 --> 00:45:14,760
pet Sasquatch in the backyard and I mean

735
00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:17,300
movies like Harry and the Hendersons

736
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:21,230
yeah you know yeah it gets wild

737
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,490
darcy another thing that really

738
00:45:28,610 --> 00:45:25,760
intrigued me about your documentary is

739
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,620
just the honesty and the Sasquatch has

740
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:30,720
been said to exist by native tribes in

741
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:33,990
canada for hundreds of years and what I

742
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:38,990
do like about that is they don't try to

743
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:41,250
somehow culturally they've avoided

744
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:45,330
trying to put these in boxes and and you

745
00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:47,880
know they just accept it for what it is

746
00:45:54,050 --> 00:45:51,240
and and I think that a lot of us you

747
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:54,060
know we we see this on TV and we want to

748
00:46:01,760 --> 00:45:58,740
put it in a box and is there any benefit

749
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:01,770
whether we prove Sasquatch exists or

750
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:09,090
would it be worse I mean I think the

751
00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:11,490
benefit would be that we know we're not

752
00:46:22,820 --> 00:46:17,550
the only intelligent you know hominid

753
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:22,830
that's with existing here on earth I

754
00:46:29,330 --> 00:46:26,610
think it's if you believe some of the

755
00:46:33,110 --> 00:46:29,340
accounts that it has a language and that

756
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:33,120
it uses tools and that it's you know

757
00:46:39,590 --> 00:46:38,220
able to build shelters and live in deep

758
00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:39,600
wilderness that sound

759
00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:42,600
like a wild man to me you know it sounds

760
00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:44,940
like a something that's related to a

761
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:49,260
human but is also a bit more of an

762
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:56,690
animal primates used tools right i-i've

763
00:47:06,980 --> 00:47:02,400
been reading about a bonobo that's

764
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:06,990
pretty famous in Africa I think it's

765
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:12,090
name is Kobo and she can make herself

766
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:15,300
breakfast with a frying pan and will

767
00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:21,530
make a fire and you know cook her food

768
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:25,320
over the fire and then we'll put out the

769
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:29,430
fire with water because she knows if she

770
00:47:36,490 --> 00:47:32,730
doesn't put out the fire that fire could

771
00:47:42,430 --> 00:47:36,500
spread and hurt her or you know burn her

772
00:47:47,180 --> 00:47:42,440
her area that she lives in and the

773
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:47,190
bonobo also speaks in sign language and

774
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,810
pitchers and can speak basically in

775
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,400
sentences full sentences and carry on a

776
00:48:04,250 --> 00:47:58,800
full conversation with you or I if we

777
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:04,260
went and visited so what does that say

778
00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:10,110
it means we're not giving enough credit

779
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:14,700
to primates that may exist out there

780
00:48:20,810 --> 00:48:17,810
that are equally as intelligent as us

781
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:20,820
but just are more wild or more

782
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:25,290
instinctual than us a little bit lesser

783
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:30,900
evolved and that's I think that's I

784
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:33,150
think it's definitely positive if we do

785
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:36,050
find finally a Sasquatch or Bigfoot

786
00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:41,970
mm-hmm man I totally agree I I think

787
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:44,190
cobos beautiful I've seen a little bit

788
00:48:51,830 --> 00:48:48,720
about that and yeah yeah I'm on the

789
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,840
fence you know when when speaking about

790
00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:53,280
it because I don't know whether to call

791
00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:55,320
Kreacher you know I think to myself

792
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,440
where's PETA and all this and I do

793
00:49:03,470 --> 00:49:00,720
believe that some creatures are more

794
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,480
intelligent than we are you know people

795
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:04,800
often say how is it possible that

796
00:49:08,090 --> 00:49:06,630
dolphins and whales have larger brains

797
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:08,100
and they haven't accomplished more but

798
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:11,280
you know in the words of Leonardo da

799
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:13,130
Vinci I mean simplicity is

800
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:14,520
sophistication it's the ultimate

801
00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:19,530
sophistication and and I was also

802
00:49:23,810 --> 00:49:21,960
intrigued that we're delving into

803
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:23,820
something that's close to home for some

804
00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:26,310
it's something that can't be ignored the

805
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:27,990
Old Man of the Mountain the Yeti the

806
00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:30,570
Yowie the Bigfoot the Sasquatch it has

807
00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:31,980
so many names it's been through

808
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:35,220
throughout history it should exist it's

809
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:39,540
in our oral tradition it's yeah yeah and

810
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:42,240
what's what are your thoughts is there a

811
00:49:58,270 --> 00:49:51,960
reason for this well I think it's safe

812
00:50:05,690 --> 00:49:58,280
to say if it's sorry the I'm just

813
00:50:10,610 --> 00:50:05,700
pulling up the name it's Kanzi k ka and

814
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:10,620
Zed I is the name of the bonobo that I

815
00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:13,710
was speaking out before konzi ka and

816
00:50:26,270 --> 00:50:20,040
said I looked that up brilliant bonobo

817
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:26,280
that can speak anyways with your

818
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:33,890
question I think people generally

819
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:45,380
if you are going to look at accounts of

820
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:48,240
this creature people do sometimes state

821
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:50,510
that there's aggressive aggressive

822
00:50:59,150 --> 00:50:52,490
aggressiveness or aggressive behavior

823
00:51:03,490 --> 00:50:59,160
that's demonstrated so I believe there's

824
00:51:08,109 --> 00:51:03,500
credibility that this creature may also

825
00:51:12,979 --> 00:51:08,119
be dangerous mm-hmm but

826
00:51:16,430 --> 00:51:12,989
have you seen David Polly Dee's new

827
00:51:17,259 --> 00:51:16,440
Polly days new documentary Oh missing

828
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:17,269
for one one

829
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,170
yeah the hunted mm-hmm so what do you

830
00:51:28,269 --> 00:51:25,200
think of the theory that possibly

831
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:28,279
hunters have gone missing from a

832
00:51:39,769 --> 00:51:35,130
sasquatch encounter I I can only speak

833
00:51:44,029 --> 00:51:39,779
of encounters that I've had myself and I

834
00:51:46,579 --> 00:51:44,039
think it depends on what the hunters are

835
00:51:51,069 --> 00:51:46,589
doing maybe I think that maybe these

836
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:53,660
altruistic aliy developed I don't know

837
00:51:58,489 --> 00:51:55,680
if that's even a thing but like they are

838
00:52:00,829 --> 00:51:58,499
more aware and the more aware of their

839
00:52:03,859 --> 00:52:00,839
surroundings more aware of impending

840
00:52:07,009 --> 00:52:03,869
doom more aware of you know we have bats

841
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,019
with sonar we have whales dolphins with

842
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:08,880
sonar we have so many creatures that

843
00:52:13,339 --> 00:52:11,910
have traits that we don't have and we

844
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:13,349
wonder why we don't have them when we

845
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:15,690
lock ourselves into shelters and cities

846
00:52:23,209 --> 00:52:19,170
and you know fearful of going into the

847
00:52:25,819 --> 00:52:23,219
woods and Darcy I don't know I think

848
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:25,829
that you know if they are infringed upon

849
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,130
enough I think like like we would we

850
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:32,640
there's definitely that characteristic

851
00:52:40,089 --> 00:52:37,440
or ability to dispose of an intruder or

852
00:52:41,739 --> 00:52:40,099
something that they consider a threat

853
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:41,749
mm-hm

854
00:52:53,049 --> 00:52:48,089
yeah for sure I mean if if we're pushing

855
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,059
them more and more into territory that's

856
00:53:00,769 --> 00:52:56,400
deeper in the wilderness if we encroach

857
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:00,779
upon that territory more and more I'm

858
00:53:11,569 --> 00:53:04,049
sure they're going to make it known that

859
00:53:13,939 --> 00:53:11,579
they're uncomfortable with that and we

860
00:53:18,019 --> 00:53:13,949
are violent we go into their territory

861
00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:18,029
with rifles and shotguns and shoot

862
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:20,700
everything we can find

863
00:53:27,770 --> 00:53:25,680
to claim as a trophy or food so why

864
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:27,780
wouldn't they be aggressive back towards

865
00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:33,780
us is what I'd say mm-hmm I had a an

866
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:37,380
instance where a report I believe I got

867
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:40,170
it from the BFRO it was a location where

868
00:53:45,980 --> 00:53:41,700
I used to be a fly fishing guide for

869
00:53:48,380 --> 00:53:45,990
about a decade in in an area called

870
00:53:50,660 --> 00:53:48,390
Flaming Gorge Utah just below that I was

871
00:53:53,630 --> 00:53:50,670
on the Green River but there was an area

872
00:53:56,060 --> 00:53:53,640
where a judge a very credible sighting

873
00:54:01,400 --> 00:53:56,070
where a judge from Manila was driving

874
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:01,410
down to where he lived and they there

875
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:05,460
was there was a sighting and it was in

876
00:54:12,339 --> 00:54:08,609
an area called Skull Creek and according

877
00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:12,349
to the judge this creature or being was

878
00:54:16,670 --> 00:54:15,000
doing something next to the road he was

879
00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:16,680
driving he thought it was a person so he

880
00:54:23,450 --> 00:54:18,990
stopped kind of pointed his lights at it

881
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:23,460
and you know got a little closer and you

882
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:25,410
know I immediately went up with some

883
00:54:32,059 --> 00:54:29,790
buddies and in retrospect I it was one

884
00:54:33,579 --> 00:54:32,069
actually one buddy and in retrospect I

885
00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:33,589
don't think we did it right we

886
00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:36,030
immediately started like you said I mean

887
00:54:41,089 --> 00:54:38,790
like just so invasive immediately

888
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,099
started following tracks and oh you know

889
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:42,960
what are they doing what are they going

890
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:45,450
what what is it doing what is it if it's

891
00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:47,220
one or if it's many it just very

892
00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:49,470
invasive just kind of poking and

893
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:53,190
prodding and late one evening we did

894
00:55:00,440 --> 00:54:57,890
kind of get a little bit of pushback and

895
00:55:02,540 --> 00:55:00,450
there was a moment where something came

896
00:55:05,059 --> 00:55:02,550
crashing through the trees it was still

897
00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:05,069
at a distance that we felt safe but we

898
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:08,670
got out of there and I think that as

899
00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:10,730
human beings were just kind of

900
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:14,700
unfortunately taught that you know to

901
00:55:25,339 --> 00:55:20,490
conquer and this isn't the correct or

902
00:55:27,170 --> 00:55:25,349
conceivable method to coexist so I agree

903
00:55:30,980 --> 00:55:27,180
100% with you on that

904
00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:30,990
it's yeah and you know if we're going to

905
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:32,760
get to the bottom of this rabbit hole we

906
00:55:38,090 --> 00:55:35,210
may need to entertain

907
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:38,100
different methods that aren't as

908
00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:44,880
invasive or seemingly dangerous to what

909
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:48,180
it is we're trying to interact with yeah

910
00:55:57,830 --> 00:55:53,910
and if you go into a forest and you're

911
00:56:01,700 --> 00:55:57,840
actually doing a Sasquatch expedition

912
00:56:06,109 --> 00:56:01,710
what essentially you are doing is going

913
00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:06,119
into the wilderness with guns setting up

914
00:56:10,670 --> 00:56:07,230
a campfire

915
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:10,680
you know trekking trying to find tracks

916
00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:17,550
you're hunting right and it's a kind of

917
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:20,990
you know it's an offensive and

918
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,140
aggressive idea and if we're if we're

919
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:30,240
going about it in an aggressive way

920
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:34,230
we're not exactly making a creature feel

921
00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:37,369
like it it wants to be around right so I

922
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:42,150
bet as soon as they hear or see what

923
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:44,910
you're doing they're gone and they're

924
00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:46,800
gonna make themselves gone you know

925
00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:48,390
they're gonna make themselves really

926
00:56:56,810 --> 00:56:54,540
hard to find mm-hmm I agree

927
00:56:59,599 --> 00:56:56,820
Darcy you're even keel attention to

928
00:57:01,370 --> 00:56:59,609
detail I think the historical data the

929
00:57:05,060 --> 00:57:01,380
eyewitness testimony that you honestly

930
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:05,070
depicted and just the overall focus from

931
00:57:11,530 --> 00:57:08,310
a scientific perspective is extremely

932
00:57:15,530 --> 00:57:11,540
refreshing I think so often these

933
00:57:17,690 --> 00:57:15,540
quote-unquote documentaries rarely help

934
00:57:20,330 --> 00:57:17,700
the reality of the situation we're up

935
00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:20,340
against and especially analyzing the

936
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:22,230
phenomenon and exaggeration and

937
00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:25,290
elaboration and you know the themes of

938
00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:27,720
the day were clickbait and likes and

939
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:31,260
subscribers or the only focus I think

940
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:32,970
truth is kind of the last thing people

941
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:36,180
are interested in and we're from it

942
00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:38,190
what's happening now you know from a

943
00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:40,350
viral perspective where money is the

944
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:42,630
king and the only focus I think you

945
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:45,150
honorably avoided all that and that

946
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:47,910
trap and you stayed true to the grates I

947
00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:50,130
believe people who have an honest

948
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:51,720
interest in this subject matter

949
00:57:56,029 --> 00:57:53,910
appreciate your lack of wanting fame

950
00:57:58,279 --> 00:57:56,039
money viral hits Facebook Likes whatever

951
00:58:01,130 --> 00:57:58,289
you want to call it and sticking to the

952
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,140
true path of scientific method you're a

953
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:03,839
true hero Darcy and I know you're a busy

954
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:05,579
man I can't thank you enough for coming

955
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:08,130
on the podcast and your tenacity for

956
00:58:13,549 --> 00:58:11,089
what in my opinion is much needed you

957
00:58:15,529 --> 00:58:13,559
you're truthful depiction of the

958
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:15,539
creature and the science that seems to

959
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:17,640
carefully avoid it I just wanted to

960
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,119
thank you and I and I'm sure many truly

961
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:24,000
appreciate that thanks Ryan I really

962
00:58:31,940 --> 00:58:29,450
appreciate your feedback and ability to

963
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:31,950
grasp what I was trying to do there I

964
00:58:40,099 --> 00:58:35,609
mean not everybody some people do prefer

965
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:40,109
the Finding Bigfoot or chasing monsters

966
00:58:48,589 --> 00:58:45,089
sort of series that are out there but I

967
00:58:55,609 --> 00:58:48,599
think those more so just bring lack of

968
00:58:59,140 --> 00:58:55,619
credibility to this subject and thanks I

969
00:59:01,880 --> 00:58:59,150
really appreciate what you've had to

970
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:01,890
talk about today and I'll definitely

971
00:59:07,539 --> 00:59:03,510
come chat with you again when I've got

972
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:07,549
this other documentary out sometime

973
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,089
hopefully early next year that's awesome

974
00:59:16,430 --> 00:59:14,400
that's that makes me so excited where

975
00:59:18,849 --> 00:59:16,440
can listeners and myself and everybody

976
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:18,859
kind of like follow you support you

977
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:21,210
where can we keep up with with what

978
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:27,119
you've got going on yeah so you can

979
00:59:37,579 --> 00:59:31,440
check out my Facebook group it's called

980
00:59:43,490 --> 00:59:37,589
occult journeys and website occult

981
00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:43,500
journeys com I've got a plethora of work

982
00:59:50,750 --> 00:59:46,440
there where I've tried to explain some

983
00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:50,760
of the most unexplainable that that is

984
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:57,000
out there and yeah he be ready to see a

985
01:00:01,500 --> 00:59:58,480
bunch of UFO stuff

986
01:00:03,150 --> 01:00:01,510
because I do like that subject as well I

987
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:03,160
think there's a lot of credibility

988
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:08,730
behind that but I also want to focus on

989
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:13,890
Sasquatch Bigfoot and other wild men and

990
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:18,250
the idea that were a wilderness may

991
01:00:27,170 --> 01:00:23,170
still hold the truth to the question of

992
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:27,180
whether this this being truly does exist

993
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:29,410
excellent thank you Darcy you can't

994
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:32,170
thank you enough and thanks for sticking

995
01:00:37,319 --> 01:00:34,660
to the truth and the right thing to do

996
01:00:37,610 --> 01:00:37,329
appreciate you thanks for I have a good

997
01:00:39,319 --> 01:00:37,620
one man

998
01:00:42,260 --> 01:00:39,329
[Music]

999
01:00:45,890 --> 01:00:42,270
absolutely epic

1000
01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:45,900
Darcy breaking it down with facts

1001
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,660
explaining what's going on it's

1002
01:00:54,450 --> 01:00:52,000
absolutely phenomenal that this is being

1003
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:54,460
attacked from a fact-based perspective

1004
01:00:59,730 --> 01:00:57,450
instead of all these sensationalism and

1005
01:01:04,200 --> 01:00:59,740
ridiculousness that is often associated

1006
01:01:06,650 --> 01:01:04,210
with the phenomenon so definitely

1007
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:06,660
support Darcy we're anyway you can and

1008
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1009
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1015
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1016
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know it's not about that but it is tough

1017
01:01:38,830 --> 01:01:37,990
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1019
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1021
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